tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413429.post6648424817682796107..comments2023-11-03T06:15:28.583-07:00Comments on Zen of Funny: Intellectually Dishonest Argumentjoe klocekhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16829163934517012427noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413429.post-31894839633809164642012-07-21T15:03:28.501-07:002012-07-21T15:03:28.501-07:00The most interesting comment was the one left by a...The most interesting comment was the one left by anonymous. I wouldn't sign my name to that incredibly lame joke either. It is also a perfect example of what I'm talking about. If this joke had been told at a club last night it would of been met with a groan or maybe even more considering how serious the situation is. This is the kind of cheap, immature, poorly thought out childish "joke" I am talking about. It shines no bright light on causes or conditions and only makes fun of the situation. There is a market for that humor, don't get me wrong, plenty of comics tweeted similar garbage yesterday too. But I don't want a audience of eternal 13 year old boys.joe klocekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16829163934517012427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413429.post-70713645118300507492012-07-21T14:19:19.930-07:002012-07-21T14:19:19.930-07:00I agree wholeheartedly. I prefer thinking comedy t...I agree wholeheartedly. I prefer thinking comedy that Miyagis a point home rather than just spoon-feeds the obvious joke... or simply goes for the most shocking thing because it can. Anyone can cloak anything they say with the umbrella of "entertainment" - people like Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh became millionaires that way. <br /><br />That whole rape conversation wasn't even a matter of free speech in comedy to me. Free speech goes both ways. Daniel Tosh wasn't making a joke and then being heckled - he directly engaged the audience making an inflammatory statement that demanded a response and he got it. When you say something purposefully shocking, you lose the right to be shocked at their shock.<br /><br />This goes back to my biggest "free speech" argument: Freedom of speech isn't freedom of responsibility. You get the right to say whatever it is you want to say. But you also get to answer for it.<br /><br />But it worked out well for everyone involved. Daniel Tosh got some free publicity, as did the Laughing Factory. That's how it works in showbiz.<br /><br />And I, for one, choose to look at the positive. I know I'll never pay to see anything Daniel Tosh ever does. He branded himself well, as does any "comedian" who chooses to go after a nerve like the Batman shooting. <br /><br />Too lowbrow for me.Gingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07065804534458426991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413429.post-30221926053387010782012-07-21T11:25:51.476-07:002012-07-21T11:25:51.476-07:001) Smarter folks than me have pointed out that the...1) Smarter folks than me have pointed out that the First Amendment deals with the GOVERNMENT restricting your speech. It has nothing to do with an audience hating you for telling a poorly constructed joke. And by "poorly constructed" I mean "doesn't make the audience laugh."<br /><br />2) Right on the money about comedians' job #1 - make the audience laugh.<br /><br />3) FUN FACT (i.e., this has no use or value in the real world) The traditional suvastika points counterclockwise and nasty, evil swastika points clockwise.Deanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01675949045583477351noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413429.post-43316399761420864602012-07-21T10:51:40.766-07:002012-07-21T10:51:40.766-07:00Great post JoeGreat post Joedavesblogedyblogbloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09652727608938468832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6413429.post-86171488605996327682012-07-21T10:50:52.211-07:002012-07-21T10:50:52.211-07:00I was going to see the batman premiere yesterday, ...I was going to see the batman premiere yesterday, but i think ill just wait for the crowds to die downAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com